This is a continuation of the paper [J. Symb. Log. 87 (2022), 1065–1092]. For an ideal $\mathcal {I}$ on $\omega $ we denote $\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}=\{f\in \omega ^{\omega }: f^{-1}[\{n\}]\in \mathcal {I} \text { for every } n\in \omega \}$ and write $f\leq _{\mathcal {I}} g$ if $\{n\in \omega :f(n)>g(n)\}\in \mathcal {I}$, where $f,g\in \omega ^{\omega }$.

We study the cardinal numbers $\mathfrak {b}(\geq _{\mathcal {I}}\cap (\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}} \times \mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}))$ describing the smallest sizes of subsets of $\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}$ that are unbounded from below with respect to $\leq _{\mathcal {I}}$.

In particular, we examine the relationships of $\mathfrak {b}(\geq _{\mathcal {I}}\cap (\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}} \times \mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}))$ with the dominating number $\mathfrak {d}$. We show that, consistently, $\mathfrak {b}(\geq _{\mathcal {I}}\cap (\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}} \times \mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}))>\mathfrak {d}$ for some ideal $\mathcal {I}$, however $\mathfrak {b}(\geq _{\mathcal {I}}\cap (\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}} \times \mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}))\leq \mathfrak {d}$ for all analytic ideals $\mathcal {I}$. Moreover, we give example of a Borel ideal with $\mathfrak {b}(\geq _{\mathcal {I}}\cap (\mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}} \times \mathcal {D}_{\mathcal {I}}))=\operatorname {\mathrm {add}}(\mathcal {M})$.

We investigate which filters on ω can contain towers, that is, a modulo finite descending sequence without any pseudointersection (in ${[\omega ]^\omega }$). We prove the following results:

1. (1) Many classical examples of nice tall filters contain no towers (in ZFC).

2. (2) It is consistent that tall analytic P-filters contain towers of arbitrary regular height (simultaneously for many regular cardinals as well).

3. (3) It is consistent that all towers generate nonmeager filters (this answers a question of P. Borodulin-Nadzieja and D. Chodounský), in particular (consistently) Borel filters do not contain towers.

4. (4) The statement “Every ultrafilter contains towers.” is independent of ZFC (this improves an older result of K. Kunen, J. van Mill, and C. F. Mills).

Furthermore, we study many possible logical (non)implications between the existence of towers in filters, inequalities between cardinal invariants of filters (${\rm{ad}}{{\rm{d}}^{\rm{*}}}\left( {\cal F} \right)$, ${\rm{co}}{{\rm{f}}^{\rm{*}}}\left( {\cal F} \right)$, ${\rm{no}}{{\rm{n}}^{\rm{*}}}\left( {\cal F} \right)$, and ${\rm{co}}{{\rm{v}}^{\rm{*}}}\left( {\cal F} \right)$), and the existence of Luzin type families (of size $\ge {\omega _2}$), that is, if ${\cal F}$ is a filter then ${\cal X} \subseteq {[\omega ]^\omega }$ is an ${\cal F}$-Luzin family if $\left\{ {X \in {\cal X}:|X \setminus F| = \omega } \right\}$ is countable for every $F \in {\cal F}$.