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Some pathological examples of precipitous ideals

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  12 March 2014

Moti Gitik
Moti Gitik*
Affiliation:
School of Mathematical Sciences, Raymond and Beverly Sackler Faculty of Exact Science, Tel Aviv University, Ramat Aviv 69978, Israel
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Abstract

We construct a model with an indecisive precipitous ideal and a model with a precipitous ideal with a non precipitous normal ideal below it. Such kind of examples were previously given by M. Foreman [2] and R. Laver [4] respectively. The present examples differ in two ways: first- they use only a measurable cardinal and second- the ideals are over a cardinal. Also a precipitous ideal without a normal ideal below it is constructed. It is shown in addition that if there is a precipitous ideal over a cardinal κ such that

• after the forcing with its positive sets the cardinality of κ remains above ℵ1

• there is no a normal precipitous ideal then there is 0†.

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Research Article
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The Journal of Symbolic Logic , Volume 73 , Issue 2 , June 2008 , pp. 492 - 511
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Copyright © Association for Symbolic Logic 2008

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