Let   $g\,\mapsto \,{{g}^{*}}$  denote an involution on a group
 $g\,\mapsto \,{{g}^{*}}$  denote an involution on a group   $G$ . For any (commutative, associative) ring
 $G$ . For any (commutative, associative) ring   $R$  (with 1),
 $R$  (with 1),   $*$  extends linearly to an involution of the group ring
 $*$  extends linearly to an involution of the group ring   $RG$ . An element
 $RG$ . An element   $\alpha \,\in \,RG$  is symmetric if
 $\alpha \,\in \,RG$  is symmetric if   ${{\alpha }^{*}}\,=\,\alpha $  and skew-symmetric if
 ${{\alpha }^{*}}\,=\,\alpha $  and skew-symmetric if   ${{\alpha }^{*}}\,=\,-\alpha $ . The skew-symmetric elements are closed under the Lie bracket,
 ${{\alpha }^{*}}\,=\,-\alpha $ . The skew-symmetric elements are closed under the Lie bracket,   $[\alpha ,\,\beta ]\,=\,\alpha \beta \,-\,\beta \alpha $ . In this paper, we investigate when this set is also closed under the ring product in
 $[\alpha ,\,\beta ]\,=\,\alpha \beta \,-\,\beta \alpha $ . In this paper, we investigate when this set is also closed under the ring product in   $RG$ . The symmetric elements are closed under the Jordan product,
 $RG$ . The symmetric elements are closed under the Jordan product,   $\alpha \,o\,\beta \,=\,\alpha \beta \,+\beta \alpha $ . Here, we determine when this product is trivial. These two problems are analogues of problems about the skew-symmetric and symmetric elements in group rings that have received a lot of attention.
 $\alpha \,o\,\beta \,=\,\alpha \beta \,+\beta \alpha $ . Here, we determine when this product is trivial. These two problems are analogues of problems about the skew-symmetric and symmetric elements in group rings that have received a lot of attention.